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WC3 레딧의 블마 아이템 + DPS 계산 글

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WC3 레딧의 블마의 아이템에 따른 DPS 계산 글을 소개합니다.

 

* 출처 - WC3 레딧 https://redd.it/4fazwr

 

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Fun Facts: Blade Master Items + DPS calculations 

 

The debate has existed for at least a decade over what is stronger, claws or gloves. Well, I've wanted to make a thread for a while about this, the only problem was actually having to do all the calculations. I thought about just making a program to do it for me, but then I realized I could make a map in less than 3 minutes and just test 30 different cases with a stopwatch and calculator. So thats what I did! And it's better data because it's from actually in the game, and I often times double or triple tested things to make sure the value was correct (it always was). I made tons of different test cases using everything a Blade Master can get, from Agility Tomes, Slipper of Agility, Circlets, Claws +6, Claws + 9, Boots of Elvenskin, Orb of Lightning, Kodo Aura, Upgraded Kodo Aura, Endurance Aura, Critical Strike 1-3, and levels 1 through 5.

I will do my best to try and present the data in a format that represents what you guys would want to see, usually in-game scenarios.

The build order is WW/Crit/WW/Crit/Crit unless otherwise specified. Level 2 = +1 agility (tomes), Level 3 = +2 agility (tomes), Level 4-5 = +3 agility (tomes).

Level 1: Nothing - 28.8 dps

Level 1: Circlet - 32.4 dps

Level 1: Gloves - 33.8 dps

Level 1: Claws - 33.8 dps

Level 1: Nothing, (Critical Strike skilled over WW) - 34.1 dps

Level 1: Circlet, Gloves - 36.0 dps

Level 1: Gloves, Gloves - 37.0 dps

Level 1: Circlet, Claws +6 - 37.4 dps

Level 1: Slippers, Gloves - 38.6 dps

Level 1: Gloves, Claws - 39.4 dps

Level 1: Claws + 6 x2 - 39.6 dps

Level 1: Slippers, Claws +6 - 39.9 dps


(Remember these have +1 agility from tomes)

Level 2: Circlet, Gloves - 43.7 dps

Level 2: Circlet, Claws +6 - 46.3 dps

Level 2: Circlet, Gloves x2 - 48.75 dps

Level 2: Circlet, Gloves, Claws +6 - 50.3 dps

Level 2: Circlet, Claws +6 x2 - 51.7 dps


(these have +2 agility from tomes)

Level 3: Circlet, Gloves, Claws +9 - 58.5 dps

Level 3: Circlet, Gloves x2, Kodo - 58.6 dps

Level 3: Circlet, Claws +6, Claws +9 - 60.3 dps

Level 3: Circlet, Claws +6, Claws +6, Kodo - 61.4 dps


(these have +3 agility from tomes)

Level 4: Circlet, Claws +6 x3, Kodo - 75.6 dps

Level 4: Circlet, Gloves x 3, Kodo - 79.4 dps

Level 4: Circlet, Slippers x3, Kodo - 84.7 dps (lol, yep)


(The rest have +3 agility from tomes, upgraded Kodo, and Endurance level 1)

Level 5: Circlet, Orb of Lightning, Claws +6 x3 - 97.9 dps

Level 5: Circlet, Orb of Lightning, Gloves x3 - 116.3 dps

Level 5: Circlet, Orb of Lightning, Slipper x 3- 119.6 dps

I had quite a few more cases I tested, but they aren't super interesting, because claws + 9 is just better than Orb/Claws/Gloves/Slippers at every level, and Elvenskin above that (WAY above).

What is there to learn? Before we get too far into the evaluation, lets point out that this is pure damage. Certain MU's, especially O v U for example, a circlet does so much more than many of these items listed, because the Blade takes a lot of damage. It gives 50 hp, 0.1 hpps, 30 mana, 0.1 mps, 0.6 armor (4% EHP), 4% attack speed, and 2 damage, as opposed to just pure damage like many of these items only give.

Level 1: Claws generally provide the most damage, but are still close to gloves/slippers. Claws mixed with gloves/slippers do exactly the same as just stacking claws.

Level 2: This is claws best level. Gloves aren't too far behind.

Level 3: Claws are still about 1-2 dps higher than Gloves here.

Level 4: RIP claws. As we add more damage to the Blade Master through levels, Endurance, Kodo, agility tomes, whatever, the raw damage of Claws falls behind the percentage increase of Gloves and Slippers. But check it out, slippers are considerably better than gloves, and gloves are considerably better than claws. I did this test many times.

Level 5: Gloves and Slippers are running away from claws+6 at this point, by a huge margin.

Questions:

Where are the Claws + 9 and Boots of Elvenskin in the calculations? I did them. Claws + 9 are always better than circlet/slippers/gloves/claws +6, so there is nothing to learn. Elvenskin are better than everything and Claws +9 by miles, so there is also nothing to learn or compare. Always use Elvenskin and Claws +9 over the other items, in that order. (also the +4 agi +4 str helm is a must as well).

Gloves = Critical Strike: According to what I understand of the math, and from what I've tested, Gloves of Haste = 1 level of critical strike, in all cases. Getting an extra gloves on your hero increases your dps the same as getting a level of critical strike. Even if you did 1000 dps, equipping Gloves of Haste increases your dps the same as getting critical strike would. Weird, right? Actually, gloves are increasing your DPS by a little less, because when you have high agility, the bonus attack speed is closer to 10% than it is to 15%. However, with the psuedo-random Critical Strike Warcraft 3 uses, critical strike doesn't even make 15% either, so they both aren't what the claim. However, it is close.

Why are slippers better late game? Because they add base damage to the Blade Master ON TOP of 6% attack speed. Base Damage comes from agility, and base damage is better than claw damage. Base Damage gets a full bonus from Kodo beast, and other effects (like command aura, trueshot when hitting air, scroll of beast, upgraded kodo, etc), whereas I think claws either get ignored or have some sort of diminishing return.

During the point in the game where gloves/claws do relatively equal damage, what tips the scale? Attack speed. Gloves are more consistent, give you better attack animation, and more effectively combat disables (slow, chilled, cylcone). The better attack animation alone lets you get many more attacks in while chasing. Also, say you are Cycloned, and you can only get 2 attacks off before getting Cycloned again. Well, what if gloves allow you to get 3? Attacking 3 times is still much better than 2 attacks with slightly more damage. Where are claws better? Windwalk backstab damage. If you are only going to get one hit from Windwalk, Claws will give it more damage. But why not make it two hits with Gloves? I would not consider big crits from Claws +6 better than Gloves, as Gloves will give you the Crit sooner, and more of them, so it balances out.

Any other reasons to prefer attack speed? If you go to tier 3, Orb of Lightning also gets more advantage from attack speed, as you will proc the purge much more frequently, stopping destroyers, frost armor, skellys, water elementals, quill beasts, air units, rejuvination, roar, heroes, etc. Not having attack speed at this point in the game is atrocious. It is miles ahead of raw, slow damage, in both dps and utility, when you get to tier 3 and higher levels.


TLDR:

At lower levels, what is better, Gloves or Claws +6? Claws are slightly better

At higher levels (4+), what is better, Gloves or Claws+6? Neither. We were all wrong, Lol. Slippers of agility are better than both. KEEP THE SLIPPERS. Slippers > Gloves > Claws +6. And Slippers are better by a lot, and they even give you armor.

So whats the final verdict?

5) Claws of Attack +6 - These are just raw damage. They have no utility other than "the lucky big one", or more windwalk single-hit damage. They are slightly stronger at lower levels

4) Gloves of Haste - These begin to provide more damage and utility as the game goes on. The damage is close enough to Claws of Attack +6 early game to be comparable in dps, but the utility is much greater. The greater attackspeed allows for much stronger chasing, better mitigation from disabling effects, better attack animation, and overall much more consistency. The later the game goes, the more damage they do compared to Claws of Attack +6, and by level 4+ it is a lot more.

3) Slippers of Agility - This is the best of both Claws and Gloves, and has 3 advantages. Firstly, it takes 1 item slot for 2 effects (dmg and speed). Secondly, it adds to your base damage (better than bonus damage). And thirdly, increases your armor.

2) Claws of Attack + 9 - Yeah it is just raw damage, but it is enough raw damage to make that much more of a difference. 9 more damage is usually at least a 20% net increase in DPS.

1) Boots of Elvenskin - Basically a Claws +6, a Gloves of Haste, and a Ring of Protection put into one item. Things that come to mind: "Balance" "Fun and Interactive" "Skill".

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TLDR 만 해석을 시도해 보겠습니다. (잘못된 해석이 포함되었을 수 있습니다.) 

 

블마가 낮은 레벨일 때 헤이스트 글러브와 +6어택클러 중 어떤 게 더 나은가? +6클러가 살짝 더 낫다

 

블마가 Lv.4 이상의 높은 레벨일 때 헤이스트 글러브와 +6어택클러 중 어떤게 더 나은가? 둘 다 아니다. 어질리티 슬리퍼가 그 둘보다 더 낫다. 슬리퍼 다수 > 글러브 다수 > +6클러 다수. 슬리퍼 다수가 더 좋으며 아머도 향상시킨다.

 

그래서 결론은? ... (해석 어렵습니다. 가능한 분 계신가요?)

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6 Comments
Gyumin 2016.04.22 14:24  
민첩이 진리...?
pashin86 2016.04.22 14:33  
결론은 쿠엘탈라스 > 9클러 > 어질리티슬리퍼 > 헤글 = 6클러 (레벨에 따라 달라짐)
인거같네요
트루샷 2016.04.22 15:07  
감사합니다.~
ㅇㅈ?ㅇㅈ!
배초향 2016.04.22 19:06  
클러가진리
나르샤 2017.09.11 21:11  
DPS는.. 아무 메즈기 없이 프리딜 할 수 있을때 기준이라.. 클로나 민첩템이나 1장 1단이 있는듯 싶네요...
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